Damn.

"DipodomysDeserti" (dipodomysdeserti) 03/26/2015 at 08:02 • Filed to: None

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Leon711 > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:11

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Wow.

PatBateman > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:20

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YUP. This is insane.

AutoSavant > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:21

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That bastard

iakona > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:21

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Oh man.

thebigbossyboss > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:24

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Fuck.

Twingo Tamer - About to descend into project car hell. > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:30

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That motherfucker. It's a strange situation, the way it all transpired.

doodon2whls > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:30

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Incredible...

Full site link:

http://www.bbc.com/news/world-eur…

DeLM > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:42

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Yeah... WTF! I am so angered that one asshat could ruin thousands of lives. I guess that whole only able to open the door from inside the cockpit cause terrorizors backfired... I mean it's the flipping 21st century, the door should automatically open for the pilot via rfid chip in name tag, or something..... There has to always be a back up plan! for fooks sake! I was initialy saddened when it 1st happened.. now I am straight PISSED! :/

Two Drink Minimum > DeLM 03/26/2015 at 08:51

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It's maddening, but any system you come up with will have vulnerabilities. Lock the door, and you get situations like this where a lone actor can destroy the plane. Leave it open, or even enable automatic RFID-triggered access, and attackers from the cabin can potentially gain access.

The real solution is returning to a three-man cockpit. The current approach has a (now obvious) single point of failure. A three-man crew means no one is ever alone at the controls, and it would require a conspiracy to guarantee success crashing it. It's not feasible, of course, given the design of airliner cockpits now (not to mention the economics), but that would be the best solution.

citizennick > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:53

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I started "Descent" as well. That movie scared the shit out of me, couldn't finish it.

DeLM > Two Drink Minimum 03/26/2015 at 08:55

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I understand and agree... The return of the flight engineer would be a wonderful thing, although these days I believe it would be an I.T. guy. You would think common sense would tell them to never leave anyone alone in the cockpit, but who knows.... terrible, is what it is and hopefully this never happens again...

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 08:57

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Not the first time this shit has happened, and most likely not the last. Ugh.

Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole > Two Drink Minimum 03/26/2015 at 08:59

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I don't know if even that would help. I know this isn't a passenger plane, but one person taking over multiple cockpit personnel has been attempted (and almost succeeded).

Rainbow > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 09:26

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Airplane workers, including the pilot and copilot, have to go through metal detectors before every shift. Because of course the pilot is going to bring a bomb on there; it's not like he can crash the plane any other way...

Two Drink Minimum > Dukie - Jalopnik Emergency Management Asshole 03/26/2015 at 09:29

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Yep, familiar with the FedEx incident, and I agree. On the other hand, it's better than nothing.

End of the day, as long as humans are piloting aircraft, pilots will be a point a vulnerability.

Two Drink Minimum > DeLM 03/26/2015 at 09:30

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I hope so too. Alas, this is at least the fourth such event that has occurred, and the missing Malaysia Air flight could certainly represent a fifth such case. That's just four or five flights out of literally millions (maybe tens of millions?), but it's still an unacceptable and egregious tragedy.

ttyymmnn > Two Drink Minimum 03/26/2015 at 09:56

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In the US, when one of the pilots leaves the flight deck, the FAA requires that a member of the cabin crew sit in the cockpit while the pilot is gone. That means that there will be two people in the cockpit at all times. Europe does not have such a regulation. I'm not entirely sure, but I think the door on the Airbus has a timed system that can be opened from the outside. After entering a password, you have to wait a certain length of time, then have 5 seconds to enter the cockpit. But even that can be disabled from inside, I believe. I think the immediate answer is to require a third person in the cockpit, as they do in the US. Future changes will have to include some way to open the cockpit door from the outside. A key wouldn't work, or an RFID chip, because a terrorist could presumably overpower the pilot outside the cabin and take the key. It would have to be some sort of combination or voice-operated system. There have been other cases of suspected pilot suicide, but I think this may be the first confirmed case. And even then, short of a suicide note, how can we be 100% sure the other pilot didn't have a heart attack, stroke, epileptic seizure, whatever?

DipodomysDeserti > DeLM 03/26/2015 at 12:41

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There's always a way around security features. If the pilot had been the crazy person than an RFID in his name tag wouldn't matter.

DipodomysDeserti > Two Drink Minimum 03/26/2015 at 12:41

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People also have to realize that there's always risks you can't prevent.

DeLM > DipodomysDeserti 03/26/2015 at 14:49

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true but then there would still be more than one person in the cockpit..

bubblestheturtle > Two Drink Minimum 03/26/2015 at 18:53

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They will just require a flight attendant to be in the cockpit while one pilot is out.